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Dec 6, 2012 1:00am PST
is advocating is making medicare available to fewer americans. as it happens, there is brand-new polling out today on how americans feel about the idea of congress using these deficit negotiations to make cuts to medicare. 79% of americans say they do not want congress to touch medicare in these deficit negotiations. 79%. if you want to get specific about john boehner's proposal, what he wants to do to medicare is to raise the eligibility age from 65 to 67. and as it turns out, there is also recent polling on that specific proposal. and it is also super unpopular. look at this. almost 70% of americans say they oppose raising the eligibility age for medicare. that number is slightly higher among republicans than it is for the general population. more republicans oppose john boehner's plan than the already extremely high margin of the general public that opposes john boehner's plan. now, if you're following the news very closely in this slow-motion, groundhog day-esque political negotiation, maybe you already knew that john boehner wants to raise the medicare eligibility age. but i
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Dec 1, 2012 12:00am PST
weaken medicare. one of the architects of obama care responds tonight. >>> house republicans pass an immigration. bill democrats say is divisive and inferior. tonight, congressman javier pasara on why the latino community won't. be fooled. >>> the first fast food strike is historic. what you need to know about the lowest-paid workforce in the country. good to have you with us. thanks for watching. president obama knows his opponent is on the ropes and he's not letting up. the president took his tax plan agenda on the road today. he e went to a pennsylvania toy factory to focus on the people who will be hurt if the tax rate extensions are not passed for the 98% of americans. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family, everybody here. your taxes will go up on january 1st. i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that's like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> president obama has been consistent in his message and demeanor. the republicans look more unreas
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 12:00pm PST
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Dec 2, 2012 11:00pm PST
capitol hill. are democrats as divided over cutting medicare as republicans are over tax increases? with us, two voices calling for compromise. republican senator bob corker of tennessee and democratic senator claire mccaskill of missouri. >>> finally, our special economic roundtable. as both sides battle over the nation's fiscal health, what can we expect from the economy in a second obama term? what is the vision for an economic rebound? >>> from nbc news in washington, the world's longest-running television program, this is "meet the press" with david gregory. >>> and good sunday morning. amidst a lot of partisan rhetoric on both sides, talks on the fiscal cliff are now at a stand still, and the president is back on the campaign trail of sorts. this time to try to win in a court of public opinion for his plan to avert an automatic tax hike for everyone on january 1. that's where we'll start this morning with the point man on the negotiations for all of this. the secretary of treasury, tim geithner. and our roundtable is also here. standing by for reaction, including the man behi
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 11:00am PST
campaign and republicans were harping on the fact that we supposedly cut $716 billion out of medicare and now they want to make cuts to medicare and other entitlements part of the equation to get anything agreed to. we need to reform our social insurance system, particularly in medicare. we did that in the affordable care act and people forget the significant changes of medicare in that law and we ought to be content to let some of those actually play themselves out before we start messing around with something that's so important to 50 million americans. >> i believe you've pointed out in the past the cuts that were made with medicare are the same cuts that the president was attacked for during the election. >> exactly. these are savings, about a third of which were reducing the subsidy for insurance companies providing medicare advantage programs and the rest of them pretty much cut to providers and we didn't reduce services. we expanded some while leaving money over the long term and the cbo said the affordable care act will save $1.2 trillion. again, we need to be careful what we
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 5:00pm PST
obama's proposed $340 billion in medicare cuts will mean for seniors. >>> vice president joe biden stumps for the middle class at a retail store that treats its workers right. i'll talk costco and fiscal cliff with steve greenhouse of "the new york times." >>> plus hostess executives tank their company and cost the people their jobs. so why are they still demanding millions of dollars in bonuses? >>> and we'll tell you how senator john mccain fits in with congressman louie gohmert's latest conspiracy theory. >> this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. republicans are walking tall in public but hanging their heads behind closed doors. john boehner struck a defiant tone during a news conference today. he blamed the president and democrats for stalling negotiations on a debt deal. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and secondly, no substantive progress
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 12:00pm PST
the votes on basically changing and ends medicare as we know it. we lost a bunch of elections because of it, including the presidency. so now let's try to do this the professional way, the way that's best for the long-term strength of that party in the house of representatives and in the senate and in the country. they are listening to him because the tea party people realize they don't have a better idea and the tea party people realize we're really good at losing elections. maybe there's another way. >> this was all just a brilliant strategy by john boehner? >> it's all he had. look, the thing about being in the congressional leadership is it is not -- it's herding cats. you can't get them to do things they don't want to do. so they have to have a collective wisdom. when you have a giant influx of not just freshmen members of the house but people who are anti-politics in a certain kind of way from the tea party, anti-government, anti-compromise, when they come in to your group, it is impossible to lead. by the way, imt not someone who at any point criticized john boehner's l
MSNBC
Nov 30, 2012 8:00pm PST
. mitch mcconnell gets downright ridiculous with his demands to weaken medicare. one of the architects of obama care dr. zeke emanuel responds tonight. >>> house republicans pass an immigration bill democrats say is divisive and inferior. today, congressman javier on why the latino community won't be fooled. >>> the nation's first fast food strike is a historic protest for workers' rights. tonight, what you need to know about the lowest paid workforce in the country. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. president obama knows his opponent is on the ropes and he's not letting up. the president took his tax plan agenda on the road today. he went to a philadelphia, pennsylvania, toy factory just north of philadelphia to focus on the people who will be hurt if the tax rate extensions are not passed for presidethe 98% o americans. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family. everybody here, you'll see your taxes go up on january 1st. i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to y
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 8:00am PST
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Dec 4, 2012 11:00am PST
saving including raising the medicare requirement to 67, nearly twice what the white house called for. the gop plan changes how social security benefits are calculated, something addressed under the president's plan. the president today did open the possibility for further negotiations down the road. >> we're not going to be able to come up with a comprehensive tax reform package that gets it all done just in the next two weeks. we're not going to be able to come up with necessarily a comprehensive entitlement reform package in the next two weeks. >> joining me now is congressman adam schiff of california. thank you so much for your time. >> it's a pleasure. >> you heard the president responding again to the proposal from republicans yesterday. what's your gut right now on this? >> my gut is we're going to reach a deal. i don't think we're going over the cliff, but we'll have a hard couple of weeks of negotiating st still ahead of us. i don't envy of position the speaker is, but he has to face the fact his party lost the election and argument. the american people really agree with wha
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 8:00pm PST
in savings from medicare and entitlements. there's also a request for at least $50 billion in infrastructure spending, mortgage relief, and other stimulus measures. none of this is a surprise to the republicans. this is what president obama campaigned on. it's also what republicans have been presented behind closed doors for weeks. "politico" reported on the deal taking shape behind the scenes. it includes most of the same details the white house has in its proposal. according to "politico" house republican leaders recognize president obama holds the high cards and the public is likely to blame republicans if negotiations blow up and the new year begins with a fiscal disaster. the facts didn't stop speaker boehner from claiming the white house is holding up negotiations. >> majority leader and i just had a meeting with the treasury secretary. it was frank, and it was direct. i was hopeful we'd see a specific plan for cutting spending. >> the treasury secretary's proposal seems pretty specific. it even includes $400 billion in specific cuts. but john boehner sees something diff
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 9:00am PST
for $600 billion in entitlement reform, including raising the medicare age. it brings $200 billion from social security, adjusting the inflation rate and raises $800 billion in new tax revenue by reforming the tax cut and closing loopholes. the plan rejects specifically raising tax rates, but it is significant that john boehner has gotten his entire leadership team, including congressman eric cantor, kevin mccarthy and even former vice presidential nominee and budget hawk paul ryan to publicly sign their names to a plan that through closing loopholes raises taxes. in an effort to give this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who does n
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 3:00am PST
proposal. for spending cuts in medicare or anything else. you can't have a deal unless both sides make proposals. and right now all we have is a tax proposal from the democrats. we have no spending proposal from the democrats. we have no tax proposal from the republicans. we have no spending proposal from the republicans. and we've been at this now for a couple weeks, really since the day after the election. that's why some of us are a little pessimistic. >> a couple years. because the reality of it is whether you're going back to the sequestration bill of 2010, 2011 or you're talking about what is now known as the fiscal cliff. neither side has been very willing to really deal with the nuts and bolts, the reality of tax rates, reality of spending cuts, the reality of tax reform. that's really what next year's going to be all about. right now i just don't see -- i mean, can we just get real here? we're talking five weeks tops before the end of this lame-duck session, end of the year. and these guys are going to get done in five weeks what they haven't been able to do in five months? >>
MSNBC
Dec 1, 2012 5:00am PST
medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now. >>> good morning, from new york. i'm chris hayes. a draft of egypt's new constitution will be delivered to president mohamed morsi today. private first class bradley manning accused of leaking classified documents to wikileaks will return to court in fort meade maryland. right now i'm joined by richard a renberg. allen frumin who retired as parliamentarian of the u.s. senate last year. this is his first interview since then. akil amar and sterling professor of law at yale law school. and msnbc contributor, victoria defrancesco soto. great to have you all here. all right. if president obama wants to get anything done in his second term, democrats in the senate will have to overcome one major obstacle, the filibuster. since democrats took control of both chambers of congress in 2007, republicans have used the filibuster as a bludgeon against them to pass basic legislation. the senate bills that actually passed has dropped from just over 25% to a record low of 2.8% this year. the rate held steady at 10% through the cli
MSNBC
Dec 3, 2012 11:00am PST
essentially the dismantling of medicare. we debated it during the presidential with paul ryan's proposal to put -- turn medicare into a voucher system. so when it comes to looking for savings in medicare, there's ways to find savings without breaking the guarantee that we've had to our seniors for the last several decades. i think democrats, again, have demonstrated repeatedly that we're willing to compromise, but the republicans have to come to the table, especially around revenue. so the question frankly needs to be proposed to the person running the republican caucus, and that's grover norquist, who is not a member of this house, to say that the pledge that people should honor is the pledge to the u.s. constitution and not the pledge to grover norquist. >> speaker boehner was on fox news on sunday, and he says as he described negotiations, we're nowhere, period. we are nowhere. 29 days to go. we have some analysts such as our first read team that say the real negotiations won't begin until mid-november. already you have wall street and everyday people bracing for another 11th hour sit
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 12:00am PST
it's bare bones, you have voucher rising of medicare, you have a return to the ryan budget, which priorities are not priorities that i think the american people share. >> rates, can there be a deal done with the rates not going up? >> no. i'm an appropriator for a long time in the congress. we used to have an expression. it's not the price. it's the money. this is not to be punitive on the people who make over $250,000. it's just to be fair to the entire country. you need that additional revenue in order to reduce the deficit and continue to make investments in growth. >> if speaker boehner says that, you know, we're not going to move on the rates, where are we? >> i hope that's just a bargaining position. but the fact is we have talked about it two step. do a down payment on cuts, on investments and on revenue this year and then in the next year, take the time to go over what we would do with real revenue reform. you can't do it in a matter of weeks right now. >> through this whole process, you want the rates to go up. been very clear on that. medicare age stays the same. and the
MSNBC
Nov 30, 2012 10:00am PST
billion in medicare? is your problem with it that it's not specified? do you want to see a more specific laundry list or do you have to produce a laundry list before he's going to come up with his? is this a giant game of chicken. >> >> that's what's unfortunate. that's what i think the parties should be sitting at a table, speaker boehner is on the absolute right track, shown a willingness to be able to talk about things that we haven't been able to talk about before and they need to sit down and hash this out. there's nothing like a deadline to drive these types of decisions. i've said what should happen is it should be happening right now, what i think will happen is it will happen probably at the end of the year before the deadline. deadlines drive action. but yeah, i want to get to the specificity that we all need. >> congressman, thank you very much. thanks for joining us today. >> thanks, andrea. >> up next, we'll talk to judy gross, the wife of an american contractor jailed in cuba. why she's speaking out as she never has before. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 7:00am PST
of medicare. i don't know what it is with these republicans. >> it's safer if you're on the progressive end of the political spectrum to go over the fiscal cliff than it is to agree to some of the things they're talking about. >> ruth, where do you stand, deal or no deal? >> not who deal, but who are more pessimistic. the clock is really ticking. about ten legislative days left in the year. outlines are there but the willingness to do it and the ability to get it done in time, i'm more disappointed than i thought i would be at this point. on the other hand, this is the moment of posturing. so it could all come together at the last moment. a christmas present. >> there has been plenty of that. tim geithner, he's going out to talk to these leaders. what does he say, for example, in these meetings with reed and t reid and the other leaders? >> opening line is it's dangerous to get over the cliff so let's get there. my reporters tell me there are contours to a deal. the senate democrats moving a little on entitlements. a day after dick durbin number two democrat said we shouldn'
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 8:00am PST
medicare eligibility age raised, we don't want to see these entitlements cut with medicare cuts. when we hear that, is that basically not getting in the ears of what john boehner's caucus has in front of them right now? they're just not paying attention to those facts on the table? >> you're exactly right. it's not reality. the simple math doesn't add up. i use the analogy, it's like going tos an fast food chain and, there's calories involved in that, you might gain a little bit of weight. >> not if nobody sees you eat it. >> at the end of the day you know what you ate and you're going to gain the weight. the fact of the matter is it's simple arithmetic here. when you take a look at entitlement reform that, is the real driver here to bring down our deficit and to bring fiscal sanity back to washington, d.c. as it relates to medicare, as it relates to social security. that's the real conversation that we as the american people need to have around our kitchen tables. >> an interesting note to point out amid this debt crisis going on, new jersey governor chris christie is at the white ho
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 1:00am PST
eligibility age for medicare. that is a wildly unpopular idea. more people oppose than support that idea by a 37% margin. it is more unpopular among republicans than the general public. republicans have not convinced their own voters let alone the rest of the country. they have not convinced their own voters on what they are trying to get in this big washington negotiation that is underway. republicans do not want the president out in the country talking to the people of the country about his ideas, which the country likes and about their ideas, which broadly speaking, the country hates. republicans do not want the president urging the american people to get involved on this, to call their member of congress, to invade their facebook pages and their twitter feeds. this is not a new strategy for president obama. this is the latest in a long line of efforts on the part of the obama white house to organize americans, to bring a grassroots campaign style efforts to bear on a policy debate. this not the first time the obama administration has done this. in fact, this isn't even a new thi
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 7:00pm PST
hatchette to medicare. that -- that's what they wanted to do. now the election is over. and we're getting together to do the deal, and it's like, so do you want to tell them we're going to cut medicare? no, you tell them we're going to cut medicare. this is its thing -- nobody wants to cut medicare and everybody on capitol hill is trying to figure out who is going to break it to the american people. >> and we have a poll coming out today just how much the american people don't want them to be doing that stuff. the one thing the american people are certain about is, yes, let those top tax brackets go up. >> exactly. and republicans think this, too. maybe it's not a majority but something in the 40s. those rates are going up. and i think republicans understand it. i think a lot of what you're hearing, including from john boehner, is this posturing you have to do to make sure you can still raise money, obviously, as we were just saying. but at the same time, you've got to believe that he understands deep down, those rates are going up one way or another. if they can't come to an agre
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 9:00am PST
conference and say look what we got, cpi change on the cost of social security, medicare entry age raised with sizable entitlement benefits. that's literary where they are. can they get something big or go off the cliff? which a lot of democrats think now is not the worst thing in the world. gambling with the financial markets but hurting the gop and don't have to deal with what democrat told me is this constant utter nonsense that happens every time we have a budget negotiation. >> luke keeps referencing the polling, a "washington post"/pew poll that says 53% of the country will blame congressional republicans if be go over the cliff, 27% blaming the president. he is comfortable with those numbers which is why the swagger is the only word for it today at the business roundtable. >> absolutely. remember this is the second or third poll we've seen, so the republicans have had time to make their case and the public is not buying it. if you're the president, your hand is strengthened. there are polls that show there's a national journal poll people want this balanced approach. you hear the p
MSNBC
Dec 1, 2012 11:00am PST
medicare premiums for the wealthy and increase in the medicare eligibility age and slowing costs of living increases for social security. let's dig in now with molly ball, national political reporter for "atlantic" and also lynn sweet, washington bureau chief of "chicago sun-times." ladies, good afternoon. >> hello to you. >> molly, senator dick durbin saying right here on tuesday on "morning joe" that he could see $400 billion, at least $400 billion in entitlement cuts. is that going to be as hard of a sell to the left as raising rates will be to the right? >> in a word, yes. there are a lot of democratic groups right now really pushing for no changes to entitlements and no cuts to entitlements, medicare, social security and also medicaid is a big concern for a lot of unions, a lot of progressive groups who are really trying to push the democrats to hold their ground on this. however, the administration has signaled they could be open to some kinds of changes, potentially the kind of stuff that mitch mcconnell is talking about. i think what we're seeing is that the president's nego
MSNBC
Dec 3, 2012 5:00pm PST
things like social security and medicare and medicaid. they should consider who won and who needs to be considered here. why? because the nobodies is the big shots like they call them also have a stake in how this deal gets cut. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "the ed show" starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. the republican plan to solve the fiscal cliff is the same one america rejected on november 6th. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> flabbergasted. i said he can't be serious. >> john boehner finally puts a plan on the table. >>> and breaking news the middle class gets the shaft. richard wolffe and molly ball on the republican political theater and the white house response. >>> bob costas issues a common sense relief for gun control in the wake of the kansas city chief murder suicide story. and the right wing just explodes. >> bob costas based on the standards of our society today deserves to be fired for these remarks. bill roden and dan gross respond. >>> corporate profits break records again. we
MSNBC
Nov 29, 2012 1:00pm PST
deductions and i think that's it. they might want to raise the cap on payments toward medicare when you're working years. something that would make the medicare prom more secure financially which would appeal to the progressives and people with big city and working class constituencies. >> what about the age for when you qualify for social security? >> well, i wouldn't touch that. that's too high. you don't do that over christmas rush. you know, you do that over a long period of time and you make a very serious concession to people who have really heavy lifting jobs. it's different if you're working in a law firm and they keep you around for a few more years rather than you're driving a semi ray cross the country on route 70 or 80 all night long. you may not want a guy 730 years o -- 70 years old or a woman driving that truck. i really think you have to find something not -- i think the word hardship, not handicap, whether it be a hardship type role that are recognized as such where you get to retire sooner. i think we can deal with that over time but it takes more finesse. >> george will
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Nov 29, 2012 12:00am PST
new poll by "the washington post" and abc news shows. all americans oppose major changes to medicare benefits, including republicans and conservatives. bain boehner can't win. the most important poll was on november 6th. president obama ran on raising taxes on the wealthiest americans and not hitting beneficiaries of medicare, medicaid and social security. this is his leverage. >> this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. this was a major debate in the presidential and congressional campaigns across the country. a clear majority of americans, not just democrats but also a lot of republicans and a lot of independents agreed we should have a balance approach to deficit reduction that doesn't hurt the economy and doesn't hurt middle class families. >> republicans spent the last four years saying that president obama doesn't understand the economy. voters said that they were wrong. now, john boehner has really worked himself into a position. he is really in an untenable position. he is going against the majority of americans here. he is willing to say, our ideology is more important than
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Dec 7, 2012 7:00am PST
plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral to see a specialist. so don't wait. call now and request this free decision guide to help you better understand medicare... and which aarp medicare supplement plan might be best for you. there's a wide range to choose from. we love to
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Dec 1, 2012 4:00am PST
down on. $600 billion in cults to programs mostly coming from medicare and other programs, as well. there are other odds and ends in there, an extension of unemployment benefits, important to a lot of people. new stimulus spending in the form of $50 billion for infrastructure. extending the payroll tax holiday that's been in effect for a couple of years, and averting some of these other taxes, like the alternative minimum tax that are coming down the pike. so we are still in the prepositioning stage here. they're still staking out their positions. it all comes down to the votes. and that's why the president went out there to philadelphia, the suburbs of philadelphia, yesterday. that is a -- that is a area intense with swing congressional districts. he's not trying to gain electoral votes for himself. that's all over with. but another kind of campaign continues. he's trying to move votes in the house of representatives. some of the republicans that represent those districts are out in philadelphia, alex. >> okay, mike viqueira at the white house. thank you for that update. we apprec
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Nov 30, 2012 9:00am PST
also have to figure out what exactly is their message on medicare right now. >> yeah. >> you know, the romney campaign has been the remnants or the echos or what's left of the romney campaign staff is boasting that they sort of won the debate on medicare or fought the president to a draw, but because they attacked cuts to medicare in obama care, i don't think that romney ever really sold to the public significant cuts, significant changes to the medicare program. so republicans in the abstract want this. i feel like they haven't spelled out the painful cuts they're putting on the table and part of what obama is trying to do is force them to do that. >> yes. because he himself has not made any mention of it and, you know, david gregory this morning on "morning joe" saying it's going to be painful for both sides. the president trying to outsource that, pardon the use of a loaded term, to the gop, joy. >> nobody wants to talk about what they want to cut. that's the thing in washington. why you don't see the budget shrink. talking about cuts means school lunches or cut medicare. when
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Nov 30, 2012 8:00am PST
billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlement programs. $50 billion additional in stimulus spending. no real structural reform to entitlement programs. no spending cuts. instead, stimulus spending. obviously, the president knew that this would be an unacceptable first offer. so what is the end game here? where is the president's bottom line? >> listen, this is a negotiation. it isn't about the president's bottom line or my bottom line or yours. it's a negotiation. and the sad part is, that the administration, the president, has laid down an offer. there's several things in there we know the republicans like, and yet they refuse to lay down an offer. all they do is come out, and mitch mcconnell laughs, and boehner says it's terrible. there's a fiscal cliff, and this offer isn't good. show me the money, folks. you have the power. you're bragging about the fact that you kept the house. good. show us your offer. put down your offer. now, here's my view on this. and it is the same as the president's in this respect. rough the biggest aspects of the fiscal cliff is the fact that
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Dec 3, 2012 12:00pm PST
would be? bahama ca obama care, medicare, medicaid? >> from the briefing it pertains to medicare and medicaid. the one specific thing we got is part of the health savings in the $600 billion mark would come from raising the medicare entry age from 65 to 67. something that the house republicans have talked about before. that is very much a big part of that 600 billion in health savings. >> thanks, luke russert, on the hill for breaking it down. let's go back to michael crowley. steve wants to get wonky with you. >> i haven't looked closely at this. what jumps out is the difference between obama saying he wants 1.6 trillion revenue and republicans say 800 billion in revenue. as luke said, not giving in on the issue of raising tax rates. they hold out this promise of tax reforms with loopholes and deductions. i don't know exactly how they arrive at that. it strikes me when you think back to 2010 when obama went along with extending the bush tax cuts for two more years. he was adamant back then, this is it and i'm doing it for two more years and i'm going to run for re-election and make
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Dec 7, 2012 12:00am PST
entitlement reforms that are going to be preserve social security and medicare for generations to come, it's going to be difficult for me to oppose higher rates for the rich." president obama and speaker boehner spoke by phone yesterday for the first time in a week. white house press secretary jay carney i find very interesting refused to characterize the conversation. let's bring in congressman chris van hollen of maryland tonight. good to have you with us. >> always good to when with you. >> you bet. are democrats united on this rate issue? we keep hearing it. now that boehner is starting to move a little bit and say that the money is going to come from the wealthy, yet he hasn't identified these reductions, where do democrats stand on rates? is that the bottom line? the rates have to go up? >> the rates have to go up, ed. it's a matter of simple math, as the president has said. which is why in the house of representatives the democrats filed what's called a discharge petition that would require the speaker to bring to the floor of the house the senate bill, the senate democrati
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Dec 7, 2012 3:00am PST
on massive entitlement cuts, on reforming those systems to save medicare and medicaid, social security, cutting defense, reforming the taxes, then do not meet -- if he doesn't want to meet halfway, but i've got to tell you, i am heartened with what i saw in the president's tone yesterday. i loved hearing him tell a group of americans yesterday, hey, we're going to get this thing done. i feel good about it. i love that he agreed to sit down with john boehner one on one. richard, you've done negotiations on all levels. i really liked the tone the president was sending. and by the way, i felt like charles krauthammer did a couple of days ago. because the president seemed to be saying -- and you've said it, too, along with geithner -- we won. the other side's going to cave. the president's changing his tone, and i think that is great not only for the american people, i think it's great for the president. >> i think you're right. there's a sense that people have once again remembered the basic rule of negotiation. in a funny sort of way, you've got to help the guy you're negotiatin
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Dec 3, 2012 1:00pm PST
mishmash from them. you get $100 billion in medicare savings by increasing the retirement age from 65 to 67. you get some unspecified savings from reducing social security. the only specifics if you add them up are about $300 billion or $400 billion in specific cuts, the rest are inspecific. this is the party whose fundamental premise is to cut government spending. you ask them to identify how they want to do it, and they start speaking in gibberish. it shows you this is a phony, phony movement on the part of conservatives to cut government spending. >> absolutely. ari, the president took a question on twitter this afternoon. quote, what is your opposition to taking away deductions for the 2% rather than upping the rate? seems like a reasonable compromise. his answer, not enough revenue unless you end charitable deductions. he's right, isn't he? the math doesn't add up. it didn't add up with mitt romney. it doesn't add up today. >> it doesn't add up, and those targeted revenue measures serve certain goals that we actually care about more than helping billionaires. those goals inclu
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Dec 6, 2012 7:00am PST
that's going to preserve social security and medicare for generations to come, it's going to be very difficult for me to oppose higher rates for the rich. what about that? >> and to mr. rooney's point, if in fact there were fundamental, significant reform of medicare, medicaid and social security so that we in fact save and strengthen and secure those programs, just like we did in our budget,those were included in the president's proposal, then that's something that we would talk about and very seriously consider because there's where we got to get. we got to get real solutions. the problem with the president's proposal is it's not a real solution, it's all politics. >> congressman tom price, thank you for coming on the program. >> we've been talking about the president's advantage right now. so, karl rove was not about to sit on the sidelines. his crossroads gps is running a spot today criticizing the president over his handling of the fiscal cliff. let me take a look at that. >> no real reform. instead spending taxes. we neat bipartisan ideas we can all support. >> dana, is any of
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Nov 29, 2012 2:00pm PST
medicare payments? would you accept something like that? >> i think those are all part of the discussion here, and we'll be open to a lot of different things as long as we get the big deal on this, that we make those type of reforms. i'd rather see tax reform than just saying we're going to increase the rate on the top level from -- >> i know you would. >> -- 35 to 38. >> that won't work. the liberals will never deal with you unless you raise the rates. they want to see the bite marks on your neck. they want to know you guys defending the rich will pay a price before they will pay. the pelosi core of the democratic party will not deal if the president doesn't get a rise in the rates for rich 350e78. >> we feel the same way about them. we don't trust they will have ernest discussions about tax cuts -- i'm sorry -- about real spending cuts, and so setting -- >> let me bring in mr. -- >> just isn't going to work. >> i don't know about this game of who is first. somebody is going to have to go first. let me ask you plshtion conley, how do you react to what he's saying there, first
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Dec 3, 2012 8:00pm PST
would close or which medicare savings they would achieve. hold it right there, folks. loopholes, aren't we tired of hearing about loopholes? timothy geithner made appearances on all the sunday talk shows to hammer home the specifics of the white house plan. republicans tried to counter his presence using their favorite media source. >> timothy geithner scheduled a round of interviews, but friday afternoon speaker boehner's office said he wanted to come on fox news to tell his side of the story. >> gosh, i wish i could get those calls. fox news gave john boehner the floor but he showed up with nothing. >> we have laid it out for him. a dozen different ways to raise the revenue from the richest americans as the president would describe them. >> what's the biggest proposal you put on the table since the election in terms of raising revenue from closing loopholes and deductions? >> there's a lot of ways to get there, but you could cap deductions at a percent of income. that would be one way to get there. you could eliminate deductions for the wealthiest. >> let me ask you a couple s
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Nov 30, 2012 7:00pm PST
billon comes from medicare and other health problems and 250 billion comes from elsewhere. then we draw down wars in iraq and afghanistan, shaving another trillion off of the deficit. that gets us to around 4 trillion in deficit over the next ten years. we are almost at 5 trillion in deficit reduction. as they sign the game shows, that's not all. the white house is also asking for about 200 billion in stimulus. according to the weekly standard, when senate minority leader mitch mcconnell saw the proposal, he quote, burst into laughter. he literally lol 'd. >> i've been very guarded in what i wanted to say. i didn't want it make it harder for me it say or the president or members of both parties to find common ground. but when i come out the day after the election and make it clear that republicans will put revenue on the table, i took a great risk. and then the white house spends three weeks trying to develop a proposal and they send one up here, the calls for $1.6 trillion of new taxes, calls for not even $400 billion in cuts, and they want to have extra spending, that's actually great
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Dec 5, 2012 3:00pm PST
to cut tax care programs and medicare and make seniors pay and threaten the economy of the united states of america by defaulting on payments or at least to threaten that. this is not a very popular position among the public. in fact, they will be -- i think it's a suicide mission that they are on, that the american people will make them pay the price. i really don't understand their strategy. >> margie, if you look at the fact that in the 2011 debt ceiling battle senator mitch mcconnell had this to say. he said, i think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage. you might take a chance at shooting. most of us didn't think that. what we did learn is this. it's a hostage that's worth ransoming. and it focuses theรง congress o something that must be done. now, if this was their thought and attitude in 2011, do you think that's what we're dealing with, that kind of feeling, attitude of holding the hostage for ransom now? >> i hope not. it's bad for -- it's certainly bad for the economy and it's also been bad for the economy brand. it's the reason that they
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Dec 7, 2012 10:00am PST
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